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Because of the recent controversy about not posting supplier links or names here, and several PMs looking for advice on how to find a reliable source for research chemicals, I decided to put this post together to address the problem of obtaining chemicals for research use, while maintaining a low profile, and not contributing to either the DEA's jihad OR the fast-buck artists who seek to cash in on the RC market.

The first step to purchasing what you want would be to enter its FULL CHEMICAL NAME into a search engine, and see what comes back. Then eliminate any suppliers with company names that include terms like "high" "buzz" or "trips" right off the bat. Other terms to avoid would be "legal", "shaman", "rave", or anything else that is too reminiscent of the drug culture. You are buying RESEARCH CHEMICALS, not drugs, after all.

Next, click on the link, and have a look at the site. If you see flashing skull .gifs, lots of "l33t sp33k", or any references to illegal drugs at all, you probably want to go elsewhere. The sites you want will look like a CHEMICAL CATALOG, not a promo site for a garage band! Misspellings or other typos all over the site (especially chemical names) should raise suspicions, as well.

Next, have a look at the supplier's product offerings. If their product list consists SOLELY of compounds with well-known recreational uses, go elsewhere. Sites like this are increasingly under surveillance, and exist only to cash in on the rising interest in these compounds. If they also offer traditional "headshop" products, or stuff like pocket scales, tiny baggies and empty gelcaps, run away!

What you want is a supplier of a broad range of chemicals, including various substituted tryptamines and phenethylamines. A company that offers custom organic synthesis or has a hotline to put you in touch with a staff chemist to help with your research or production questions is a good sign. Run a WHOIS check on the site, and be on the lookout for site ownership that traces to Virginia or the DC area (FedLand). Look at their payment options, with an eye towards things like accepting company checks or corporate purchase orders. Look for a VALID postal address (check it). While you will most likely be paying via credit card, the fact that they accept "traditional" payment methods adds legitimacy. Be wary of sites that insist on PayPal or Western Union, as this SCREAMS "scam site".

When placing an order, DO NOT make any reference to "dosage", "effects", PIHKAL/TIHKAL, or any other indication that you are planning on doing anything illegal with your purchase. Request a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for everything you order. A legit seller will know exactly what these are, and will gladly include them (as required by law). Including a couple of cheap, boring laboratory reagents in your order helps you look like something OTHER than a person looking to score drugs.

Legit chem dealers will NOT ship to a PO box, so you will need a valid address. And make sure the credit card you use is in YOUR NAME.
That's about all I can tell you about ordering chemicals. Common sense goes a LONG way here. If something feels "sketchy" about a supplier, it probably is! Finally, once you find a good supplier, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! Spreading the name around to people who might not be as careful or responsible as you are is a good way to ruin a good source for everybody. And plastering it all over drug-related BB sites will tip off the LEOs faster than anything. Sites like this one are being watched, people!

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Af en toe duikt er in psychonautische circuits een andere
Shulgin-variant op. Bijvoorbeeld 2Ci
De dosering ligt tussen de 14 en 22 mg. Na een klein uur is de werking duidelijk merkbaar,
na twee uur begin je te pieken. Na ongeveer zes uur vermindert het effect snel,
waarna je goed kunt eten en slapen.
2Ci is een prettig middel. Het geeft energie en je voelt je goed in je vel zitten,
zowel lichamelijk als geestelijk. Net als bij 2CB kunnen er visuele hallucinaties optreden
van prachtige patronen en intense kleuren. Wij konden een goed gesprek voeren en onze
gedachtes en ideeén goed formuleren. Het soort 'universele'inzichten en openbaringen,
zoals die bij LSD en andere hallucinogenen voorkomen, hoef je bij 2Ci niet te verwachten.
De realiteit blijft de overhand houden.
Muzikanten zeggen er uitstekend op te kunnen spelen

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The halogens represent a small group of atoms that are unique for a couple of reasons. They are all located in a single column of the periodic table, being monovalent and negative. That means that they can be reasonably stable things when attached to an aromatic nucleus. But, being monovalent, they cannot be modified or extended in any way. Thus, they are kind of a dead end, at least as far as the 2C-X series is considered. The heaviest, iodine, was explored as the phen-ethylamine, as 2C-I, and as the amphetamine as DOI. These are the most potent. The next lighter is bromine, where the phenethylamine is 2C-B and the amphetamine is DOB. These two are a bit less potent, and are by far the most broadly explored of all the halides. Here, in the above recipe, we have the chlorine counterpart, 2C-C. There is also the corresponding amphetamine DOC. These are less potent still, and much less explored. Why? Perhaps because chlorine is a gas and troublesome to handle (bromine is a liquid, and iodine is a solid). The fluorine analogue is yet harder to make, and requires procedures that are indirect, because fluorine (the lightest of all the halides) is not only a gas, but is dangerous to handle and does not react in the usual halogen way. There will be mention made of 2C-F, but DOF is still unexplored.

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De nazi's en het Stalinregime wisten dat fluor de geest en de wilskracht verzwakte. Na de Tweede Wereldoorlog verklaarde de topman van het Duitse farmaceutische concern IG Farben aan de Amerikaanse chemicus Charles E. Perkins, dat zijn bedrijf aan het einde van de oorlog nog een plan op tafel had om het leidingwater in de bezette gebieden te fluorideren. En dat was vast niet om de tandjes van de kinderen daar te beschermen. Het bericht is later bevestigd door de Britse geheime dienst MI5.

DeVlaming Joris Desbonnet, die tussen 1939 en 1941, in de periode van het niet-aanvalsverdrag tussen Hitler en Stalin in Duitsland werkte, vertelde aan dokter Moolenburgh dat hij zelf vaten fluor vanuit Duitsland naar kampen in Siberië heeft helpen verschepen. Het werd daar in het drinkwater gedaan om de gevangenen tam te houden'.

Fluor stapelt zich op in de hersenen en is schadelijk voor het centrale zenuwstelsel. Fluor-inname is onlangs nog in verband gebracht met leerstoornissen, een lager IQ en depressie bij kinderen.
In zware kalmeermiddelen die in de psychiatrie worden gebruikt, zitten fluorverbindingen. Ook fokstieren krijgen een scheutje fluor als ze moeten kalmeren.

Verbaast me niks dat regeringen het gewoon in het drinkwater doen...lekker makkelijk. Be ware!

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Door niet-radioactief jood in te nemen zorg je ervoor dat er geen radioactief jood in het lichaam wordt opgeslagen. Als er in de schildklier genoeg niet-radioactief jood zit, is er geen plaats meer voor radioactief jood. De radioactieve jood deeltjes worden dan gewoon via de urine uit het lichaam verwijderd. De joodtabletten beschermen tegen besmetting van de schildklier door radioactief jood. Ze bieden alleen bescherming daarvoor, en niet voor andere radioactieve stoffen die door het lichaam opgenomen kunnen worden. Het heeft alleen bij een kernongeval zin om joodtabletten te nemen.

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Where else can one go, from 2C-I? The iodine is the fourth, and the last of the so-called halogens, at the bottom of the classical periodic table. But, thanks to the miracles that have accompanied us into the nuclear age, there is a fifth halide now known, Astatine. All of its isotopes are radioactive, however, and it seems unlikely that there will ever be an entry (other than this one) for 2,5-dimethoxy-4-astatophenethylamine. What might be speculated as to its activity? Probably similar in potency to 2C-I, requiring maybe 10 or 20 milligrams. The duration would be dicey to measure, since the isotope with the longest known half-life is half decayed in about 8 hours, and the longest lived natural isotope (for those who insist on natural rather than man-made things) is half decayed in less than a minute. Two predictions would be pretty solid. You might have quite a job accumulating your 10 milligrams of Astatine, as the most that has so far been made at one time is only about 0.05 micrograms, approximately a millionth of the amount needed. And the second prediction? You would not survive the screaming radiation that would bombard you if you could get the needed 5 or 10 milligrams of radio-astatine onto that magic 4-position, and the resulting 2C-A into your tummy!

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ErnstJünger zei:

Ik heb absoluut nog geen ervaring met aankopen langs deze weg, maar dan vraag ik me toch af: wat is de kans dat de douane jouw pakketje uit China tegen houdt?
En wat zijn dan de gevolgen?
Iemand al meegemaakt?

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pandalicious zei:

Molecules met fluor (en in mindere mate broom, chloor, jood.. ) in hebben nog een extra interessante eigenschap, ze worden niet gemakkelijk afgebroken, aangezien het lichaam molecules met fluor niet kan afbreken en niet weet wat er mee te doen.

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ErnstJünger zei:

ErnstJünger zei:

Ik heb absoluut nog geen ervaring met aankopen langs
Los van de chemie-voor-dummies uitweidingen, heeft iemand douane-advies over RC-bestellingen?

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