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Ik heb alleen zelf ooit een keer 2C-B gebruikt en dat was erg mooi en zonder de wat intensere psychedelische dingen zoals mindloops ect. Er is een heel erg handige engelstalige site (soort van Wikipedia) met veel informatie over doseringen, effecten en dergelijke.
Link naar de 2C-X familie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C_(psychedelics)
Zo kan je in ieder geval al een beetje lezen wat iedere stof doet, hoe potent die is in dosering maar ook psychologisch. Misschien dat andere forumleden die deze twee hebben gebruikt je nog extra kunnen toelichten.
Hier is in ieder geval een quote van reddit over de algemenere 2C'tjes:
En deze van Erowid (archive, report van Shulgin uit PiHKAL) betreffende 2C-C:
2C-C kan een lange opkomst hebben (soms tot 2 uur), maar heeft blijkbaar een fijne kalmerende werking en is ook niet zo intens als LSD en Truffels maar heeft wel gelijke visuals.
2C-B is over het algemeen erg veilig en 2C-C lijkt hier exact op buiten het feit dat een broom atoom voor chloor is vervangen. 2C-C kan wel even veilig worden genoemd buiten dat de werking wat langer of potenter zal zijn. Zelf zou ik mij er niet z'n zorgen over maken als ik dit neem.
Link naar de 2C-X familie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C_(psychedelics)
Zo kan je in ieder geval al een beetje lezen wat iedere stof doet, hoe potent die is in dosering maar ook psychologisch. Misschien dat andere forumleden die deze twee hebben gebruikt je nog extra kunnen toelichten.
Hier is in ieder geval een quote van reddit over de algemenere 2C'tjes:
2C-B is more like rolling than anything. Very mellow and fun. Lasts for like 3-6 hours. Dose is 20-30 mgs
2C-I is more visual than 2C-B yet still very much like rolling, just a speedier, tweakier roll. Overall 2C-I is very safe too. Many people have taken doses upwards of 5-6 times the standard 20 mgs with no deaths. Lasts for 8-16 hours Dose is 15-30 mgs.
2C-E is very visual, much more of a full psychedelic. Not at all good for an into to the 2C-x compounds. Nausea is very likely. Strong bodyload but a much deeper experience. Lasts 8-16 hours Dose is 15-25 mgs
2C-T-2 extremely speedy. You will feel unbelievably jacked up with very blurred vision, though different blurred from high MDMA doses. I basically was blind. Very static-like visuals. Nausea is very likely. heavy body-load, and you will be sore and drained the next day. I personally had a terrible headache during and after comedown for the next 24 hours. Lasts for 12-18 hours Dose is 15-25mgs
2C-P is by far the most intense 2C-X i have experience with. Very overwhelming visuals. Blows 2C-E out of the water. Not as stimulating as the other 2C compounds. Almost sedating in a way (though you can by no means sleep). A good amount of euphoria and nice body high. Nausea is possible, although less debilitating than the others. NOT for the inexperienced psychonaut. Definatly a very very very intense experience. A benzo is recommended as a backup plan if things turn sour. Lasts 16-22 hours Dose 6mgs-12mgs. Shulgin reported a non-fatal, yet clear physical overdose at 16 mgs.
Those are the 2C-x compounds I have experience with. That order is my opinion of scale from least intense and easiest to handle to very intense and very strong. Any more info on them and trip reports can be read at Erowid.org.
Be careful with these chemicals though as without a milligram scale it is very easy to overshoot your dosage. Remember that because 2C-B is illegal so it has a much higher chance than the others to be something other than 2C-B, very possibly another 2C-x. Also remember that they are not as safe as the other classic psychedelics and MDMA. Very little is known about these except through 1st hand experiences. A couple people have had bad reactions to both 2C-B and 2C-T-7(not a lot by any means but but a couple have).
You might get a headache on the comedowns, I personally do on every phenethylamine, but most people don't.
And lastly happy trails! Hope this was helpful. There are definatly some beautiful chemicals in the 2C-x family and most may not be around for much longer, so enjoy!![:)]()
En deze van Erowid (archive, report van Shulgin uit PiHKAL) betreffende 2C-C:
DOSAGE: 20 - 40 mg.
DURATION: 4 - 8 h.
QUALITATIVE COMMENTS: (with 20 mg) This is longer lived than 2C-B, and there is a longer latency in coming on. It took an hour and a half, or even two hours to get there. It had a slight metallic overtone.
(with 24 mg) I was at a moderately high and thoroughly favorable place, for several hours. It seemed to be a very sensual place, but without too much in the way of visual distraction.
(with 40 mg) There were a lot of visuals--something that I had noted at lower levels. There seems to be less stimulation than with 2C-B, and in some ways it is actually sedating. And yet I was up all night. It was like a very intense form of relaxation.
EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY: Other reports mention usage of up to 50 milligrams which seems to increase yet further the intensity and the duration. I have one report of an intravenous administration of 20 milligrams, and the response was described as overwhelming. The effects peaked at about 5 minutes and lasted for perhaps 15 minutes.
The halogens represent a small group of atoms that are unique for a couple of reasons. They are all located in a single column of the periodic table, being monovalent and negative. That means that they can be reasonably stable things when attached to an aromatic nucleus. But, being monovalent, they cannot be modified or extended in any way. Thus, they are kind of a dead end, at least as far as the 2C-X series is considered. The heaviest, iodine, was explored as the phen-ethylamine, as 2C-I, and as the amphetamine as DOI. These are the most potent. The next lighter is bromine, where the phenethylamine is 2C-B and the amphetamine is DOB. These two are a bit less potent, and are by far the most broadly explored of all the halides. Here, in the above recipe, we have the chlorine counterpart, 2C-C. There is also the corresponding amphetamine DOC. These are less potent still, and much less explored. Why? Perhaps because chlorine is a gas and troublesome to handle (bromine is a liquid, and iodine is a solid). The fluorine analogue is yet harder to make, and requires procedures that are indirect, because fluorine (the lightest of all the halides) is not only a gas, but is dangerous to handle and does not react in the usual halogen way. There will be mention made of 2C-F, but DOF is still unexplored.
The treatment of the 2C-B phthalimide described above, with cuprous cyanide rather than cuprous chloride, gave rise to the cyano analog which, on hydrolysis with hydrazine, yielded 2,5-dimethoxy-4-cyanophenethylamine (2C-CN). Hydrolysis of this with hot, strong base gave the corresponding acid, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-carboxyphenethylamine, 2C-COOH. No evaluation of either of these compounds has been made in the human animal, as far as I know.
2C-C kan een lange opkomst hebben (soms tot 2 uur), maar heeft blijkbaar een fijne kalmerende werking en is ook niet zo intens als LSD en Truffels maar heeft wel gelijke visuals.
2C-B is over het algemeen erg veilig en 2C-C lijkt hier exact op buiten het feit dat een broom atoom voor chloor is vervangen. 2C-C kan wel even veilig worden genoemd buiten dat de werking wat langer of potenter zal zijn. Zelf zou ik mij er niet z'n zorgen over maken als ik dit neem.